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	<title>Comments on: timing for an expansion &#8211; Warhammer Online</title>
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		<title>By: Rikker</title>
		<link>http://www.backseatdev.com/2010/06/timing-for-an-expansion-warhammer-online/comment-page-1/#comment-644</link>
		<dc:creator>Rikker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know.

For me, at least, this is THE premiere PVP (RVR) game.

I&#039;ll keep playing this for a long time to come, even if only for the wb vs. wb action out in the lakes.  I understand that it is not what many people are looking for, but it&#039;s really where I get my money&#039;s worth out of the game.

Being able to pit my group against another, even if we&#039;re horribly outnumbered (and sometimes that&#039;s more fun too..), is the best part of the game as far as I&#039;m concerned.  

That said, it&#039;s hard to do that when everyone else leaves, so I hope for their sake that Mythic finds ways to keep a good number of players on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>For me, at least, this is THE premiere PVP (RVR) game.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep playing this for a long time to come, even if only for the wb vs. wb action out in the lakes.  I understand that it is not what many people are looking for, but it&#8217;s really where I get my money&#8217;s worth out of the game.</p>
<p>Being able to pit my group against another, even if we&#8217;re horribly outnumbered (and sometimes that&#8217;s more fun too..), is the best part of the game as far as I&#8217;m concerned.  </p>
<p>That said, it&#8217;s hard to do that when everyone else leaves, so I hope for their sake that Mythic finds ways to keep a good number of players on.</p>
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		<title>By: How can it be done? &#171; Shadow-war</title>
		<link>http://www.backseatdev.com/2010/06/timing-for-an-expansion-warhammer-online/comment-page-1/#comment-635</link>
		<dc:creator>How can it be done? &#171; Shadow-war</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been a lot of talk lately about new content in WAR. Everyone seems to agree that we need something, but we don&#8217;t know what that something [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has been a lot of talk lately about new content in WAR. Everyone seems to agree that we need something, but we don&#8217;t know what that something [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tyanon</title>
		<link>http://www.backseatdev.com/2010/06/timing-for-an-expansion-warhammer-online/comment-page-1/#comment-633</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyanon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is definately tricky, I wish I knew what they were thinking and what the plan is. You are a trooper to last till December honestly. December might as well be years away, I am fading fast... :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is definately tricky, I wish I knew what they were thinking and what the plan is. You are a trooper to last till December honestly. December might as well be years away, I am fading fast&#8230; <img src='http://www.backseatdev.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Shadow-war</title>
		<link>http://www.backseatdev.com/2010/06/timing-for-an-expansion-warhammer-online/comment-page-1/#comment-632</link>
		<dc:creator>Shadow-war</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly don&#039;t think they can wait till months into the new year to release significant new content. Players are growing insanely bored and feeling as if there is nothing left to do now that they have a (or multiple) RR80s decked out in full gear.

Yes, business-wise, it will be rough to release a (free) expansion around the same time as SW:TOR, but I think it&#039;s that or slowly lose a sizeable chunk of it&#039;s exisitng player base. I know I probably won&#039;t stick around past December if nothing is at least announced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly don&#8217;t think they can wait till months into the new year to release significant new content. Players are growing insanely bored and feeling as if there is nothing left to do now that they have a (or multiple) RR80s decked out in full gear.</p>
<p>Yes, business-wise, it will be rough to release a (free) expansion around the same time as SW:TOR, but I think it&#8217;s that or slowly lose a sizeable chunk of it&#8217;s exisitng player base. I know I probably won&#8217;t stick around past December if nothing is at least announced.</p>
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		<title>By: Aeo</title>
		<link>http://www.backseatdev.com/2010/06/timing-for-an-expansion-warhammer-online/comment-page-1/#comment-625</link>
		<dc:creator>Aeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>got to agree with Tyanon on this.  End Game content is the priortity.  

But I don&#039;t know if the game can survive until the time ou are suggesting, ie after SW &amp; GW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>got to agree with Tyanon on this.  End Game content is the priortity.  </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t know if the game can survive until the time ou are suggesting, ie after SW &amp; GW.</p>
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		<title>By: Krosuss</title>
		<link>http://www.backseatdev.com/2010/06/timing-for-an-expansion-warhammer-online/comment-page-1/#comment-623</link>
		<dc:creator>Krosuss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Mythic will get 1.3.6 out and the revamp of RvR ... then it&#039;s judgment day. No more silence, no more &quot;no comment&quot; ... put up or shut up time.

You know I&#039;m overly positive and have spent many a post thinking about expansion ... but realism sinks in after the next patch.

They need to dual attack: lure in new people and add content for us old-timers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Mythic will get 1.3.6 out and the revamp of RvR &#8230; then it&#8217;s judgment day. No more silence, no more &#8220;no comment&#8221; &#8230; put up or shut up time.</p>
<p>You know I&#8217;m overly positive and have spent many a post thinking about expansion &#8230; but realism sinks in after the next patch.</p>
<p>They need to dual attack: lure in new people and add content for us old-timers.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyanon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyanon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? I would almost have to say the exact opposite Rank. They have, for the longest time, been catering almost exclusively to new players. Balancing/polishing/graphics/beginning tier experiences, endless free trial etc.. have all helped to make the game amazing, but people cap out on things to do in t4. Paying 12 bucks a month without having to buy a box or expansions and without having to buy in game currency is one of the best deals in its class of game.

Aside from getting t2-t3 more populated, focus should be on finding a way for players not to get capped out and stagnating in t4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? I would almost have to say the exact opposite Rank. They have, for the longest time, been catering almost exclusively to new players. Balancing/polishing/graphics/beginning tier experiences, endless free trial etc.. have all helped to make the game amazing, but people cap out on things to do in t4. Paying 12 bucks a month without having to buy a box or expansions and without having to buy in game currency is one of the best deals in its class of game.</p>
<p>Aside from getting t2-t3 more populated, focus should be on finding a way for players not to get capped out and stagnating in t4.</p>
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		<title>By: RanknVile</title>
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		<dc:creator>RanknVile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest concern for Mythic should be...

&quot;How do I get NEW players?&quot;

Appeasing the old players, especially after so many mishaps, failed promises and no content for ages = death staying on this same path. 

The push should be for any way possible to make the game acceptable and pleasing to the new player who has already played MMO&#039;s...especially the MMO&#039;s with half-a**ed PvP (where WAR shines).

Change the way people pay (Tiered pricing, Free to play), change the way people see the game (advertising budget should exist, yet I hear and read more about AoC than WAR...and PLEASE, WAR is NOT WoW), and get the game into new hands.

Ranking....out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest concern for Mythic should be&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;How do I get NEW players?&#8221;</p>
<p>Appeasing the old players, especially after so many mishaps, failed promises and no content for ages = death staying on this same path. </p>
<p>The push should be for any way possible to make the game acceptable and pleasing to the new player who has already played MMO&#8217;s&#8230;especially the MMO&#8217;s with half-a**ed PvP (where WAR shines).</p>
<p>Change the way people pay (Tiered pricing, Free to play), change the way people see the game (advertising budget should exist, yet I hear and read more about AoC than WAR&#8230;and PLEASE, WAR is NOT WoW), and get the game into new hands.</p>
<p>Ranking&#8230;.out</p>
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